Mr. Webb: 0:00

Is misinformation a First Amendment right? What's the difference between misinformation and fake news, and how does fake news and cancel culture affect education in America today? Welcome to The Conservative Classroom, where we're teaching the truth and preserving our values. I'm your host, Mr. Webb, and I'm glad you're here. This podcast is a haven for conservative educators, parents and patriots like you who believe in the importance of free speech, traditional values and education without indoctrination. Each week, we dive into issues that are plaguing our education system and keeping you up at night. In each episode, we offer common sense ideas to improve education in our classrooms and communities. You may feel like you're the last conservative educator or parent, but I want you to know that you are not alone. By the way, if you like what you hear today, please share this podcast with a like-minded educator, parent or patriot. Together, we can teach the truth and preserve our values.

Mr. Webb: 1:18

In today's episode, we'll talk to Daniel Street, Louisiana attorney and author of the Fake News Exposed book series. Now let's get started. Today, I'm excited to welcome a special guest to the Conservative Classroom, Daniel R Street. Daniel is an attorney, hunter, gun owner, fisherman and family man who is an avid first and second amendment supporter and author of the Fake News Exposed book series. Daniel, thank you so much for joining us.

Daniel R. Street: 1:53

Thank you for having me on. I'm glad to be here.

Mr. Webb: 1:56

I feel like my podcast listeners are in for a treat when we get into the fake news and your books. But first can you tell us a little about yourself, your background and how you went from civil attorney to author?

Daniel R. Street: 2:14

Sure, I'm from Monroe, Louisiana, which is a little town in the northern part of the state. We're actually closer to Arkansas than people always think I'm a Cajun, but I'm closer to Arkansas than I am to Cajuns down in South Louisiana. I went to law school and undergraduate at LSU and been practicing law now for 27 years. In fact, last month was 27 years. My practice is devoted primarily to representing injured people in civil litigation, so I handle auto accidents and products liability and things like that and also workers' compensation claims.

Daniel R. Street: 2:55

I actually started writing many, many years ago when I was in junior high.

Daniel R. Street: 3:03

I've submitted a number of books to publishers with the old model, if you recall that, where there were just a number of publishing houses and you'd submit a manuscript and they'd publish you or not. And then, probably about four or five years ago, amazon came up with this self-publishing vehicle and now there's a number of other outlets doing that, and so I started writing again and I've been interested in politics my entire life, but got more interested in media misinformation in the Trump era, and so I've been a Republican all my life and a conservative all my life, so I knew the media was biased against Republicans, dating back to when I was a child watching President Reagan, but it really got militant, I feel like, and much more vociferous whenever President Trump became a candidate for the presidency and for the Republican nomination, and so that piqued my interest. I started watching, I started compiling fake news stories and breaking them down. I just ultimately decided to put them in the books and made. I'm on my fourth book, just finished the fourth book a few weeks ago.

Mr. Webb: 4:25

Wow, that's awesome. Before I get into my next question, as you were talking about President Trump, that made me remember something, and I didn't remember it when we scheduled this podcast. I didn't remember it when we were talking, before we started recording, and it just hit me when Donald Trump was president. I remember specifically, this article came up in a feed. I don't remember now if it was on Facebook or what it was, but one of the it was NBC News or MSNBC or one of those news sources was talking about this racist tweet, this racist tweet, and they kept mentioning this racist tweet. So I thought I'm going to check some other news sources and another news source this racist tweet, racist tweet, racist tweet. I mean, they just kept hammering. It seemed like some of you know they were different news organizations, but it seems like they had the same talking point. So, being a conservative, you know I thought well, now that I've seen what some of these other organizations, I want to see what Fox News says about this.

Mr. Webb: 5:42

Fox News was the only news source that I found that had a picture, a screenshot, of the actual tweet, and when you read the actual tweet, I don't know how they could. They could get anything racist out of that, but that just blew my mind. I know that's one example and you've probably got you know a thousand examples, but that was pretty eye-opening. So I went back I thought is this about the same tweet? You know? And I looked at the dates and and what the articles were and I'm like, yeah, that's, this is the tweet that they're calling racist tweet, racist tweet.

Mr. Webb: 6:21

And the sad thing is NBC, msnbc, cnn, these other news organizations a lot of their listeners and a lot of their viewers they're not going to check out another news source to see if you know, if they're not going to go take the tweet, if they're not going to go take the steps I did to read the actual tweet, they're just going to assume that it's true and that that gets into. Really, my first question is how do you determine what is fake news? I feel like my example there. I experienced a little bit of it, but you've written several books on the subject. How do you determine that?

Daniel R. Street: 7:01

Well, that's a. That's a good question and it's once you've investigated fake news a little bit, you'll. It's actually pretty easy to answer. Most of the time I can identify fake news by the source. It's really that simple. Anything from legacy media and when I say that legacy media is big newspapers, big television stations and broadcasts and things like that so the New York Times, the Washington Post, la Times, chicago Tribune, cnn, nbc, abc, msnbc, that's legacy media. Anything from legacy media that's directed at certain topics is very often going to be fake news Anytime. Any of those outlets talk about Donald Trump, conservatives, christianity in particular, but to a lesser extent, just religion in general, but certainly Christianity. We can add to this list now gender or sex, because that didn't used to be in the list, but it is now. Guns, gun ownership, immigration, crime and punishment any of those topics. You got to start out with a fundamental presumption that legacy media is spreading misinformation, and if you do that, you won't be fooled. Now the other.

Daniel R. Street: 8:34

There's a couple other common elements that accompany misinformation from really any source, and that is the use of anonymous sources. If you get a report from the Washington Post, for instance, about anything, anything, and they're relying on anonymous sources. You just can't rely on it period. You have to go, investigate and get to the bottom of it, and then even corroboration of an anonymously sourced story with anonymous sources. So that's this is another fake news media tactic that's exploded in about the last decade, and that is one fake news media outlet publishes an anonymous a story that's based on an anonymous source, and another fake news media outlet goes to their anonymous source and confirms the original reporting. I've covered this in my books. There's instance after instance where that's just complete, utter misinformation and in a number of cases, the the different news organizations are using the same source to corroborate itself. So, anonymous sources, legacy media, anything that that conservatives hold dear is the basic formula for identifying fake news.

Mr. Webb: 9:54

And are there times where the legacy media maybe would use an anonymous source and it turned out to be not fake news?

Daniel R. Street: 10:07

Sure, yeah, sometimes, you know, sometimes anonymous sources are telling the truth, but what the real breakdown is here is not using the use of anonymous sources standing alone. If you were to study the the ethics that well, there's no real ethics standards that are applicable to media, but there's. There are a couple of professional organizations that promote ethics standards amongst journalists and and they all caution the use of anonymous sources and caution news media outlets to not run stories based on anonymous sources without independent, corroborate corroboration of the anonymous source from other public sources or open sources. So what a responsible media reported would do is say, hey, I've got an anonymous source telling me X, now I need to go verify X in a way that's not anonymous, to give some credibility and veracity to the anonymous source. But what the fake news media does? They just take the anonymous source and run with it, and this happens over and over again.

Mr. Webb: 11:21

Okay, so I think I get what you're saying there. So, excuse me, if I were a reporter and an anonymous source gave me some information, instead of just going to the news with that from the anonymous source and okay, this is the source would remain anonymous. So you get that verified through other sources that are not anonymous and then report on it. That way, correct, and I didn't know. That that's. I've learned something already. That's quite enlightening.

Daniel R. Street: 11:50

I can give you a good illustration is, if you recall, in January of 2021, the Washington Post reported that President Trump had called an investigator with the Georgia Secretary of State's office named Francis Watson. We didn't know who the investigator was at the time, but it said that President Trump had told her to find the fraud in America. Would you know? She would be a hero if she found the fraud in Fulton County and that the source for that story was anonymous and what the Washington Post actually lied about, the reason for the source to remain anonymous, that he was worried about being threatened and harassed and intimidated by conservatives. You know Trump supporters well. As it turns out, what happened was a public records request was sent and and there was a recording in the call that the investigator had made and ultimately, someone else got the recording of the call.

Daniel R. Street: 12:54

The Washington Post had to retract or correct the story they had gotten told. They were told by Jordan Fuchs, who is with the Secretary of State's office in Georgia, who was briefed on the call by somebody else. So it was in the law. We would call it hearsay within. Hearsay within hearsay is totally a competent evidence. No one would ever be allowed to testify to what somebody's told them that somebody else said about somebody else's conversation, but that's perfectly fine for the Washington Post.

Daniel R. Street: 13:25

All the Washington Post had to do was make a couple of calls to other people to verify that this call had even taken place, and it could have talked to the investigator herself. She wound up giving interviews and talked to local media and, had you know, the Washington Post wrote it up as though President Trump had tried to coerce or pressure her and her. She had given interview. Francis Watson did said I wasn't pressured, he was a very polite, friendly call and so that's a good, for instance. So they knew undoubtedly that Jordan Fuchs was not a good source and there was no good reason to keep him anonymous, except for the fact he didn't want anybody know he was the one spreading the misinformation you know. So that's a good illustration. All they had to do is make a couple of phone calls to verify and that story would have never run what?

Mr. Webb: 14:21

what are some news sources that we can trust?

Daniel R. Street: 14:26

good question, good question. Okay, I have a ritual that I follow every day and my first observation about this I tell everybody get your information from as many sources as possible. Okay, I don't watch the news anymore unless I'm investigating some misinformation. I don't at. The only time I read the New York Times is when I'm investigating misinformation.

Daniel R. Street: 14:56

I use a series of online sources and internet sources and social media sources, including everything from the Daily Wire, the Daily Caller, citizens free press, the Gateway Pundit and a number of different social media influencers that I follow, and I can accumulate all of that.

Daniel R. Street: 15:20

Now, any of those sources can be wrong at times. Undercover DC's another good source. They can be wrong at times, but these are people, for the most part, who are making a real effort to be accurate. And and then when I get individual pieces of information I want to run down, I'll dig a little deeper, do a deep dive, and a lot of times I'll wind up going to local. If it's a local story, I wind up digging down to local reporters who really had boots on the ground or something happened, things like that, and that's how I get, that's how I try to stay informed and well informed, rather than, you know watching or listening to legacy media reports so, excuse me, what I keyed in in there was as many sources as possible, so maybe not get too hung up on one new source, but several new sources, all right, so a lot of.

Mr. Webb: 16:23

Given your focus on media misinformation, how do you think this issue has seeped into education, or has it, and what impact might that have on students?

Daniel R. Street: 16:38

yeah, I think. I think without a doubt it's seeped into education and in fact it's been deliberately injected into education, particularly with respect to civics and history and sociology and liberal arts like that, and I think we'll see it more in the future. There's a there's a concerted effort amongst the, what I would characterize as the leftist education establishment, to spread anti-American dogma as history and we've seen that with the 1619 project. If you've read up on any of that and some of the critical race theory, I think the the odds that President Trump were to be given an accurate or even balanced representation in an American history book when the next you know standardized books come out over the next few years is probably less than zero. So for the most part, what I think the way it's impacted education is, there's just just the the leftist tent to everything official is permeates particularly liberal arts and sociology you mentioned that critical race theory and that made me think of cancel culture, because it seems like some of these things, misinformation and cancel culture kind of intersect.

Mr. Webb: 18:20

So but I want to hear it from you what, what do you think the relationship is between fake news and cancel culture?

Daniel R. Street: 18:27

well, fake news is used, without a doubt, to cancel people and and we've seen that particularly in recent times with with the use of social media, where a narrative can start and the misinformation can spread. You know, mark Twain once said he quipped you many years ago, a hundred years ago, that a live will travel halfway around the world while the truth is still getting her boots on and back. Whenever he said that we're dealing with snail mail and print media, that was very, I want to say, primitive, but certainly not like today. A lot can travel three times as far today as it could then. You know. So the we see now a lot of people that are canceled because of misinformation. I mean a good.

Daniel R. Street: 19:25

For instance, the New York Museum, new York City Museum of Natural History, removed the the statue of Theodore Roosevelt, president Roosevelt, that it's iconic. You know it was him on a horse. You know if you saw the movie, what was the movie? Where the night at the museum, night at the museum where they, those characters, came to life. You know, if that movie were made today and it's not that old, but 12, 14 years ago, theodore Roosevelt wouldn't be in it, probably. You know, and that's.

Daniel R. Street: 20:05

There's no good reason for that? Obviously, the man was an iconic American figure. We owe a tremendous amount of our modern principles and philosophies that we take for granted to President Roosevelt. You know the anti-trust laws was President Roosevelt and you know he was a man of great personal courage and conviction and took on the most powerful interests on planet Earth during his time, and he did it successfully. And they've canceled him based on leftist misinformation. So, and of course, there are people, there are people being prosecuted right now based on misinformation and lies and people lawyers having their law licenses challenged If you know Professor John Eastman in California based on lies and misrepresentations about the nature of his representation. So, yeah, cancel culture and fake news are. They travel together, they're bedmates and I'm actually I've got another. I've got three or four other book projects I'm working on right now that are in various stages of development, and one of them is about cancel culture.

Mr. Webb: 21:21

So can you share some initial findings, particularly how cancel culture, just some findings on cancel culture that you maybe can share with us? Sure, and you know I'll tell you there are Sorry for the poorly worded question there.

Daniel R. Street: 21:38

No, no problem.

Mr. Webb: 21:39

Let me, let me start. Can you share some initial findings about what you have discovered on cancel culture?

Daniel R. Street: 21:46

Absolutely, and it takes various different, it manifests itself in various different ways. Cancel culture does. But a lot of things that as Americans, particularly my generation I'm 52 years old things that we held dear are canceled now and some of the some of the things are, you know, statues, historical figures. You know I'm from the South, so we've had, we've had our history essentially canceled. You know we can't be proud of, you know, southern statesmen, military figures and generals and things like that. Anymore we're not supposed to be because of cancel culture. But it's also things as simple, as you know, president Roosevelt, like I just mentioned. But, for instance, if you want to see how deep cancel culture has seeped into our, into our pop culture or modern culture, think of the things, so many things in the past that would never be allowed today. I'll give you, for instance, the Dukes of Hazard, if you remember the show. That's a great example.

Daniel R. Street: 22:58

Oh, I love that show yeah the general, the generally the good guys would today would never drive a car that had a Confederate battle flag on the top of it. Just, period, not gonna happen. That's a good. For instance, you know, my, my wife and I were just watching the, the Friends. If you remember the television show Friends, the reunion from 2021, we watched it again because of Matthew Perry passing away. I said, you know, we need to watch that and we're watching some of these episodes and thinking they would never film that episode today.

Daniel R. Street: 23:32

You know there were things said and things done that and they're not. They're not rude. I mean well, maybe a little rude, but they're not obscene. Like there's a. There's an episode where Rachel's sister comes in and she she basically makes a pass at Ross and she and she says to Ross and you, I made a pass at you, you turned me down. How gay are you? They would have never. That would have never seen the light of day today. That's funny and so cancel.

Daniel R. Street: 24:03

Culture manifests in many different ways from getting people fired from their jobs, killing people's business. If you remember the guy up in Minnesota that was a big game, hunting in in Africa a few years ago and killed the lion that people had named Cecil, you know, and they the the lefties in the animal rights activists tried to put the guy was a dentist and they tried to put him out of business, you know. But he didn't do anything illegal and ultimately, and so it can cost people their jobs, it can cost people their livelihoods, it can cost people historical figures and it's going to ultimately have an effect on our culture, because people aren't going to be exposed to really simple things that they were exposed to in the past. So I may have given you more than you were barred in for with that answer.

Mr. Webb: 24:53

No, you know it's. It's funny because a lot of times when I'm interviewing someone, my mind is thinking of so many things. You know so many different avenues that we could go, so many questions that I could ask. But there's one word that I wanted to hold on to and wanted to mention. We talked about fake news and how cancel culture kind of comes from that. Or maybe I mean, I'm not sure if cancel culture comes from fake news. I'm not. I can try to remember the way you worded a minute ago.

Mr. Webb: 25:27

Yeah, so they're fake, fake, fake news. People use fake news to cancel. Maybe that's how you said it. That's correct, and we mentioned CRT and some other things and the word indoctrination. I feel like that's all part of this this fake news, cancel, culture, misinformation, crt when does indoctrination Now, specifically, I'm thinking about how universities are indoctrinating students and future teachers, and there's a lot of teachers out there, unfortunately, who are, instead of educating, they're just trying to raise the next generation of activists. So I'm wondering what's your take on how all that ties together?

Daniel R. Street: 26:18

Well, undoubtedly there's a massive amount of indoctrination, particularly, I don't know, I'm not informed enough about like elementary education to comment there. I know in the area where I live I don't feel like that's such a problem. But once kids get older, I know I have a relative that just graduated from law school went to the same law school that I went to, which was at Louisiana State University, and she was telling me some of the different things they had to do at orientation and they were coerced I guess would be a good word into being in favor of this LGBTQIA plus whatever they're coming up with now world view. And I mean that goes way beyond I'm talking about way beyond mere advocacy, but to literally have orientation and people are coming and say, look, we all know that you support LGBTQIA, whatever, and not even giving people the opportunity. I would have never made it if it was me because I would raise my hands that no, I don't support any of that BS, you know. But anyhow, you know there that freedom or liberty to think for yourself is being stripped from an entire generation of Americans and what the end result of that is if you pound people with something enough.

Daniel R. Street: 28:04

The masses are, you know, for the most part, kids in college probably honestly don't learn that much. They're too busy drinking and not going to class. But the ones who do are going to be influenced by it and that's the point. The point's not to, as you mentioned, not teach people but to, you know, influence them to believe a certain world view. And I think it's and certainly in secondary education it's at near, you know, epidemic proportions, and we've seen that with some of the, you know, this coming up generation is in some polling data reflects this. They don't believe in free speech. Free speech is violence. You know, if you saw that, you see Berkeley law professor testifying in front of a Senate committee and Senator Howley says what would you say if I said that women are the people who get pregnant? She said well, that would be doing violence to transgender people.

Mr. Webb: 29:09

I can't remember if change that's crazy.

Daniel R. Street: 29:12

Yeah, now that's the law professor. Now how? How do you think that person would feel about criminalizing that speech? You know so we're a couple of generations from this, if we don't get a handle on it, to having people like that be judges. We already have one of them on the United States Supreme Court that Joe Biden appointed, and we won't. We won't have free speech.

Mr. Webb: 29:36

Now, I think fake news cancel culture and doctor nation. I feel like if we did a Venn diagram of all these different things that we're talking about, CRT I don't know if we mentioned DEI or not we did not but I feel like where they all intersect is suppression of the truth. Now, this is not something I thought through thoroughly, but it seems to me like that's the thing they all have in common, and isn't that kind of what fake news is?

Daniel R. Street: 30:12

Well, it's also promotion of, and publication and proselytizing what is not the truth, you know. So I'm sitting here drawing. You know, I thought I said I ought to try drawing out a Venn diagram. There'd be a massive amount of overlap, no doubt, but I'm not exactly sure where they would all intersect the topics that we discussed. Yeah, I'm very interesting.

Mr. Webb: 30:44

Interesting to visualize that.

Daniel R. Street: 30:46

You know, the reality is and I apologize for interrupting you, but the reality is that if you take misinformation out, it wouldn't completely solve all the problems we're talking about, but it would make all of them much better. So I think, that's a common thread amongst all of it.

Mr. Webb: 31:09

And you're a first amendment advocate supporter. However, you want to say that Absolutely and isn't misinformation in fake news. Isn't that a first amendment right too?

Daniel R. Street: 31:26

Yes, and always, always tell everybody that people have the right under the first amendment to a point, to spread misinformation. And another thing to keep in mind here is a lot of times people spread misinformation. They do so unwittingly or unknowingly or accidentally, but absolutely. The United States Constitution protects what is not true as well as what is true. So truth is not the prerequisite to constitutional protection.

Mr. Webb: 32:07

And I feel like the difference between the left and the right is the right. Well, a good example is President Trump. You're fake news. You know he'll just right in the middle of a press conference. You're fake news. So I feel like the right will kind of call out the fake news, whereas the left feels like if you have a view that opposes them, then you should just keep your mouth shut. You shouldn't be allowed. Well, going back to what you said a minute ago, that speech is violence. Right, if they, if we can get to that point where speech is considered violence, then you're pretty much at the mercy of whatever group is in charge.

Daniel R. Street: 32:56

Absolutely. I mean without a doubt, and that's actually what a lot of these people want. You know a lot of these people, don't they? They? What people need to understand about the radical left is they don't believe in any of the founding principles of this country. None, they don't even believe in this country. They think this country is evil. They think that the people who founded are evil. They think the principles it was founded on, instead of, like you and I think that the principles that this country was founded on were brilliant. You know, these people despise this country's founding principles, and so they don't care if they shut someone's speech down. They don't care if they disrupt someone's ability to gather. That's what they're out to do. It's mission accomplished a lot of times. So what people need to realize is the the far left is not going to protect them and protect their rights. The far left wants to take them away, and once you kind of reach that reality, you understand that you're cognizant of. That's what their goal is, that's what their aims are. Then you can be much more effective in how you oppose them.

Daniel R. Street: 34:14

But a lot of people I call them the kind of squishy Republicans think that, like, for instance, take me and you, I'm sure I would never in a million years try to stop leftists from getting together. I would never try to stop them from talking or stop them from speaking or anything like that. But they will do it to anybody they disagree with in a heartbeat, and that's because in their view, they're right, they're just, they're fair, they're equitable and everyone else is evil. So for them it's good and evil, and you have to, you can't. It's give them an inch, take a mile, and that's how we have to approach it. It can be no compromise for these people and the good news is the vast, overwhelming majority of people right now anyway, aren't like that. But it's a loud, noisy fringe that's unfortunately too influential in the Democrat Party that believe the way I've just described.

Mr. Webb: 35:16

Right, I feel like conservatives arm themselves with facts. So when we're going up against a hard left-wing liberal, we have facts on our side and they often just try to shout us down and call us names, try to stop us from speaking the truth and then, if all else fails, just, I guess, run away. Yeah well, but they have the right to do that, don't they?

Daniel R. Street: 35:52

Well, I mean to a point, you know. One thing for people to remember is every state in the country actually surveyed. This was back during the 2016 campaign, if you remember. There were a number of people who would infiltrate Trump rallies and just try to create may him and interrupt people and just disrupt the gathering. That's illegal in every state in the country and in the District of Columbia. It is illegal to interfere with the lawful exercise of other Americans' first amendment rights In every state in the country and the DC district has some version of that law. Okay, so no one has the right to stop other people from exercising their right to free assembly, the right to freedom of expression, the right to freedom of speech. Now, I think that's something that the far left needs to learn, because they do it routinely and with little or no consequence, and, of course, that's also part of cancel culture to an extent.

Mr. Webb: 37:08

You've mentioned you're working on a book about cancel culture. Yes, and correct me if I'm wrong that you go a little deeper into that. With like, particularly with, universities. Did I read that correctly or?

Daniel R. Street: 37:23

Sure, yeah, yeah, and in fact, I mean it's going to be a deep dive into, I mean, all sorts of things that people didn't even know were cancelled. And if you don't mind, can I give you an illustration? Sure, okay, I'll give you a real close, personal illustration. And you don't think how this fits into cancel culture. But there was a movement. All right, you mentioned DEI.

Daniel R. Street: 37:55

There are these diversity classes. They're being taught in high schools all over the country and there was a movement during the 2016 campaign for these diversity classes to have. You know, they're going field trips and do things like that, and they were wearing a t-shirt. That t-shirt said stronger together. Stronger together was a registered trademark of the Clinton for America campaign. So hundreds of these classes or these programs, curriculum, whatever you want to call it all over the country, these kids were wearing shirts that were literally political statements. It was illegal and nobody did anything about it. All right. Now, if you put that on the other foot, if you switch that and had all those kids wearing a shirt that said make America great again, do you think something would have been done about it?

Mr. Webb: 38:56

That's exactly what when you said that, when you said that, when you were turning that around, that's what hit me. Make America great again.

Daniel R. Street: 39:03

Yeah, they would never allow it. And so what happens is there's freedom of speech, freedom of expression and the ability to evade the law. For people on the left, that's a wonderful illustration of it. Wow, yeah, and you say, well, wait a minute, that's not canceling something, but it is. And the reason is because it cancels number one the law and number two no one else can do it. So they have these exclusive rights to just ignore what the law is, ignore what regulations and statutory law, regulatory law, policy and everything else. All because it's a message that the people at the top who are enforcing the rules happen to be in favor of.

Mr. Webb: 39:48

Right, and the key there is that one side allows it to happen. Allows it to happen on one side, but not the other. Yeah, that's a great example.

Daniel R. Street: 40:00

Yeah, and I have to say, even in my own experience, the way I came across that is, I saw it myself and I happened to be standing next to the principal of a school whenever I encountered that and naturally, needless to say, I was not happy about it and I turned to him and I said you realize, all those kids getting on that bus right now are wearing a shirt that has registered trademark of an ongoing current political campaign, and I left it at that because he's a good guy and he's not in charge of that and what's anybody gonna do about it. So I just let it go. But the problem is that I let it go and too many other people let it go, but the lefties never let anything go, even when they're wrong.

Mr. Webb: 40:55

That's a good point, and I've had this conversation multiple times, sometimes sometimes on the podcast too how conservatives often will sit back and let me use the teachers as examples. This is a really good example in education. So a lot of times, liberal teachers will push their beliefs and values and their politics. They'll push that in the classroom, while conservatives feel like politics should be left out of the classroom. So students experience one side pushing an agenda and the other side being totally neutral. So myself, for instance, I'm.

Mr. Webb: 41:47

I'm conservative. Well, my podcast is called the conservative classroom. My students don't have a clue what my politics are. I'm a middle school math teacher. They don't. They don't have a clue. I don't have a single thing. Up in my room, on my doors, no topic is ever brought up. They have no idea, whereas if I were a liberal, I would subtly and sometimes not so subtly put maybe a pride flag over here and something else over here and try to have conversations about, about some of these things. So maybe that's an example in education how conservatives are keeping quiet. Now, I'm not saying that we should start pushing our politics, but it just it's an illustration of how one side, like you said, doesn't let things go, they don't let things go Well, while conservatives are kind of minding our own business over here in a way, and then when we do see things outside of school, it's so many conservatives are just are quiet. Well, you're right, and but there's a couple of good reasons for that.

Daniel R. Street: 43:01

And one of them, for instance and if, if I could take the liberty of giving you my thoughts about the teaching situation is conservatives by nature are independent thinkers. Okay, there may be some exceptions, that, but the masses of conservative people are independent thinkers. They're also independent personalities and they believe in self determination and making your own way and a person makes their own opportunities and being responsible for one's own mistakes, failures and successes. That those are. Those are conservative ideals. So if I'm a teacher and I'm conservative, I don't want to create a bunch of robots. I want to create a bunch of independent thinkers and people who are going to exercise their own judgment and form themselves and make intelligent and informed decisions about the things, whatever it might be, that they're going to deal with in their life.

Daniel R. Street: 43:59

Liberals don't think like that, and liberals don't even come close to thinking like that. Liberals think that the average person is not capable of making their own decisions. They need to govern, and liberals don't even think like that. They're not capable of making any of their own decisions. They need the government to do it for them, and so they take a much more aggressive approach to you could call it indoctrination, like we were talking about earlier, and it's just that's diametrically opposed, maybe antithetical, to conservatism, just by nature.

Daniel R. Street: 44:32

The other thing is and I deal with this a lot and I've actually talked about it a lot is when you see so many leftists being loud and they're in the streets and they're marching and riding and all that sort of thing.

Daniel R. Street: 44:49

Conservatives are all busy paying their bills and working for a living and we just don't, you know, just don't have the ability to be that blasé about the day-to-day issues that people have to tend to. And so I know, in my life I had a number of issues come up that I was very passionate about and I knew everybody agreed with me. But getting them to go down the legislature and jump up and down is not easy to do, because they all have bills to pay and jobs. But if you're trying to rally people to a leftist cause, I mean, I'm not trying to be rude about it, but a lot of these people sitting around with absolutely nothing to do so and a lot of them get paid to be rabble rousing, and so when you put all that together, that's why people talk about the silent majority, right, you know, anyway. So I'm off my soapbox about that.

Mr. Webb: 45:50

No, I appreciate it, appreciate your input into education there. Excuse me, and I feel like that's a good note to end on is wrapping it up with education, but I'd love to have you back on the podcast because there are so many avenues I could see us going in, so I'd love to have you back on sometime. Sure, and maybe I'll talk about some more. Well, we could go on about this for a couple of hours.

Mr. Webb: 46:19

Yes, we could, but then there are little offshoots that we could talk about too, but I usually end the episode with a few key takeaways. So, daniel, what is the one thing you want the listener to remember, if they don't remember anything else about this episode?

Daniel R. Street: 46:36

Great. It's real simple. Don't get your information from legacy media. Get your information from as many sources as possible. Americans, and really people throughout the world, have more information at their fingertips now than at any time in the history of history. Don't trust the legacy media. Get independent verification of your news and your information and don't let the fake news media fool you. That's probably the most important message that I could get.

Mr. Webb: 47:11

I think that's great advice and, as we wrap things up, share with us about your books and any upcoming projects or upcoming books you have, how they can connect with you on social media. Basically, this is your time to plug and promote anything you want to. All right, well, I appreciate it.

Daniel R. Street: 47:32

I've got four books three. They're all available at Amazon. The Fake News Exposed series about Trump. It's three books all about fake news stories about Trump and there's a total of 83 chapters. So I break down 83 lies and propaganda and misinformation about President Trump, his administration, his family, his business, even his supporters. When you purchase the books you get access to a free chapter online. So it's a total of 86 chapters.

Daniel R. Street: 48:02

My newest book, also available at Amazon, fake News Exposed 25 of the worst media lies about conservatives, covid, guns and everything else. It's not there's a couple of Trump chapters, but it covers everything from the don't say gay law in Florida to immigration, to Governor DeSantis, you know, in Florida sending people and the migrants on flights to Martha's Vineyard all sorts of stories. The one easy way to access everything that has to do with me is through my website and that's danielrstreetcom. You can go there. There's links for all of my books. There are links to my substack and my substack's really great.

Daniel R. Street: 48:47

I've covered all sorts of things, including fake news. I've covered some of the indictments of Trump the New York, you know, the Manhattan DA's indictment of Trump, the Georgia indictment. I covered some chapter. I mean some stories about COVID and all sorts of other things at my substack, and I'm on Twitter at Daniel R Street One, that's the number one. I mean X. I'm sorry it's, I can't get that through my skull. I mean it's it's Twitter to me but, and then I'm on true social at Daniel R Street.

Daniel R. Street: 49:23

So that's pretty much how to find everything I have going on and if you like any, if you get any of the books, you know you'll like them all. I mean, if you like, if you get one and you like it, you'll like them all. And then, lastly, I've got. I'm working on about three different projects. The one I'm about to focus on, I think, is I've got a work about the. It was originally going to be about the 2020 election, but I've expanded. It's just going to be, for lack of a better characterization, how Democrats and the Democrat party steals elections, and that's what the next probably the next book's going to be about. That should come out next summer is what I'm shooting for.

Mr. Webb: 50:08

That's awesome. So it may be, maybe next summer, when your new book comes out, maybe we can revisit some things, sure, and if something comes up between now and then, we can always get back on the back on the microphones and have another conversation. So your your sub stack. I'm glad you mentioned that. I actually subscribed to that yesterday, knowing that that we were going to be having this conversation and and checking some things out. I thought, hey, this, I'm going to subscribe to this. So I haven't I haven't dug into it yet, but I did subscribe to it yesterday. So if I did it, my listeners should do it.

Daniel R. Street: 50:49

Well, great, yeah, that's a Daniel R street. It's sub stack is. Is my sub stack handle, if you will. It's not hard to find. It's also a fake news exposed. You can just search for it in the in the search bar. It's sub stack. It's a wonderful resource for anyone who's not on sub stack. There I even if you're like, hey, I don't want to get any more politics there are people on sub stack who will teach you how to garden, how to grow flowers, how to raise livestock, how to shoot guns, anything you can think of it. It's just an incredible resource, and so I encourage everybody to get on it, but obviously I would preferably they'll all come subscribe to my sub stack. Right, that's what we need to do.

Mr. Webb: 51:35

Yeah, by the way, before I forget, I'll include links to your website and to those things you mentioned, including the purchase books through Amazon. I'm an Amazon affiliate, so if you want to support Daniel's work and this pod talking to my listeners now if you want to support Daniel's work and this podcast, then any books you buy through the links in the show notes, you'll be helping us both out. So, daniel, thank you so much for joining us today and it's been a pleasure having you on the conservative classroom, and I know my listeners will appreciate your insights on fake news and I hope they check out your books, your website and your sub stack Well.

Daniel R. Street: 52:18

Thank you very much and it was a privilege to be here and I appreciate you having me on and look forward to coming on in the future. Thank you, have a good one.

Mr. Webb: 52:27

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Mr. Webb: 53:05

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