Mr. Webb: 0:00

Are our schools institutions of learning or have they become battlegrounds for ideological control? What happens when education is hijacked by agendas that run counter to our founding principles and traditional American values? Can parents and educators reclaim the sanctity and sanity of our classrooms in the face of mounting challenges? Welcome to the conservative classroom, where we're teaching the truth and preserving our values. I'm your host, Mr. Webb, and I'm glad you're here.

Mr. Webb: 0:37

This podcast is a haven for conservative educators, parents and patriots like you who believe in the importance of free speech, traditional values and education without indoctrination. Each week, we dive into issues that are plaguing our education system and keeping you up at night. In each episode, we offer common sense ideas to improve education in our classrooms and communities. You may feel like you're the last conservative educator or parent, but I want you to know that you are not alone. By the way, if you like what you hear today, please share this podcast with a like-minded educator, parent or patriot. Together, we can teach the truth and preserve our values.

Mr. Webb: 1:27

In today's episode, we're diving deep into the heart of American education and its future with Alex Newman, an important figure in the realm of journalism, education and liberty advocacy. Now let's get started. I'm excited to welcome a special guest to the conservative classroom, mr Alex Newman. Alex is a distinguished journalist, author, educator and the CEO of Liberty Sentinel Media. He is a contributor to numerous publications and a familiar face on top conservative talk shows. He's here to talk about his new book "Indoctrinating Our Children to Death: Government Schools' War on Faith, family and Freedom, and how to Stop it. Alex, thanks for coming on the podcast.

Alex Newman: 2:19

It's great to be here. Thank you for having me.

Mr. Webb: 2:22

That title's a mouthful. How'd you come up with the title of it?

Alex Newman: 2:26

Well, we wanted something that really captured people's attention. That may seem far out, but we unfortunately believe that it captures the essence of the book very well. And it's not just children who are essentially being killed in large numbers by this, and we mean that quite literally. I mean you look at the explosion in child suicides. You look at the explosion in school shootings and drug overdoses and things that would have been unthinkable in earlier generations. So we don't think it's over the top, but we wanted something that would accurately capture the enormity of the situation and would also grab people's attention. And that's how we settled on indoctrinating our children to death.

Alex Newman: 3:06

Of course, the subhead, how government schools are waging war on faith, family and freedom, and how to stop it. We wanted to encapsulate the essence of what was at stake here, and I think what we prove, what we document in the book is that the faith of parents being passed on to their children is at great risk here. The future of our country is at great risk here. The future of our families is at great risk here and the future of our liberties is at great risk here. So it's not just the individual children who are being destroyed because of the nature of the fact that these children are eventually going to become the future leaders of tomorrow. Really, everything is at stake in this battle.

Alex Newman: 3:45

And then, of course, how to stop it. You know, that's the key thing is. Well, all right, there's the problem what do we do about it? And so we think that offering a serious solution is maybe one of the most important elements of doing this right. And so that's why we added in that last little subhead there how to stop it, because we don't want people to be demoralized. We want people to recognize there are answers to this. We just have to think outside the box.

Mr. Webb: 4:10

Just the title says so much and I can't wait to hear more about the book. Let's take a step back and, to start, can you tell us a bit about yourself, your background, what led you to Liberty's Sentinel media and what led you to write your new book?

Alex Newman: 4:28

Sure. So I'm a journalist by trade. I've been in journalism since college about 15 years ago and I kind of fell into it by default and it didn't take very long for me to stumble on education as the key issue. In fact, I never went to a government school. I grew up overseas in elite private schools my whole life. So I had no sense of how bad the so-called public school system was in America until I took the GED. I was held from school in 10th grade. I was living in Switzerland at the time and didn't really think much about school for a few years. But eventually I decided hey, I better get a GED so that I at least have the equivalent of a high school diploma and I can get into college and all that fancy stuff. So I got a GED and I was astounded at the level of academics that was in this test, probably the most advanced mathematics stuff that I had covered, maybe in 4th grade. I'd be very surprised if anything from 5th grade or beyond ended up on that test. And I understand that GEDs are the watered down version of a high school diploma, but I was astounded to see that.

Alex Newman: 5:43

And a few years into my journalism career I stumbled across a little note in a local newspaper about the emergence of national standards and I thought, well, that's weird, national standards. I wasn't an expert on American constitutional law, but I understood that the federal government does not have authority or jurisdiction over education. How could it be that we're talking about national standards? I mean, that's weird. I started digging into it and discovered what eventually came to be known as Common Core, and that's when I really started digging into this subject. I wrote a few major articles for various publications, including the New American Magazine, on Common Core, and decided, wow, this is something that is very, very significant and continued digging and ended up realizing that, wow, this is like the issue right, all the other issues revolve around this issue. All the other things that people care about when it comes to politics, culture, religion, the economy I mean all of them revolve around education.

Alex Newman: 6:42

So a couple years after that, I got a phone call from Dr Samuel Blumenfeld and a major publisher I was writing also for World Met Daily, which at the time was the largest Christian conservative media outlet in the world on the Internet. They had started back in the 90s and they asked if I would co-author a book on education with Dr Sam Blumenfeld. Now, I didn't know Blumenfeld personally, but I was a big fan of his work. He and I wrote for a lot of the same publications, so we kind of ran in the same circles and I considered that a tremendous honor.

Alex Newman: 7:12

That's when I really started digging into the background of all this. You know, I understood that Common Core was in atrocity. I understood that things were not going well, but I didn't understand the background until I started working with Dr Sam Blumenfeld and realized that, wow, this is actually the most important issue there is, and so that's why I've been covering education very, very extensively. I've been actually I served as a teacher for 12 years, taught advanced economics for high school seniors through Freedom Project Academy. It's an online K through 12 Christian school where I now serve on the board. We've got over 1,000 students across the United States and around the world, and so education has been a real passion, and again, I see it as the most important of all the different issues that are out there that could be covered, and so that's kind of the process that led me here.

Mr. Webb: 8:01

And the book with Samuel Blumenfeld that was Crimes of the Educators. Is that correct?

Alex Newman: 8:08

That's right Crimes of the Educators, how utopians are using government schools to destroy America's children.

Mr. Webb: 8:14

And in that book you discuss the deliberate dumbing down of America's students. I believe that's correct. So what are what do you see as the things that are dumbing down of America's students?

Alex Newman: 8:30

Well, this could be a subject for 10 podcasts, but let's start with the really obvious one, right, and that is the reading. So I learned this from Sam. It blew me away when I first heard that Americans struggled with reading. I actually could not believe it. I had learned to read as a young child living in Mexico and I had learned to read the way I thought everybody else learned to read. I had learned systematic and intensive phonics. We had been taught that an A makes this kind of sound. I learned in Spanish and French long before English, but I had learned that an A is a symbol that represents a certain sound. A B is a symbol that represents a certain sound, and then you learn how to blend them and I thought this was ubiquitous. I thought I didn't know that there was any other way to do this.

Alex Newman: 9:12

Well, from from Dr Sam Blumenfeld I learned that in the United States they used something very different called the whole word method. There's various different terms they use now to disguise this absurdity, but they call it the sight word method, the whole language. We've got now terms where they try to kind of blend it with other methods like balanced literacy and things like this, but it was all basically this quack method where, instead of just teaching children the different symbols and the sounds that they represent, they were teaching children to memorize whole words, as if the words themselves were a symbol, which just didn't make any sense. Why would anybody do that? We have a phonetic writing system. I mean, what kind of craziness is this? And I started looking at the data. The data today is crystal clear, right. Less than one-third of the victims of government indoctrination centers masquerading as schools are even proficient in reading. That's according to the US Department of Education's data. They've done several adult literacy surveys over the last few decades and what they have found is that most Americans, the majority of American adults, are in the bottom two categories of reading. Out of five categories, five being a very good reader, one being completely illiterate, two being basically functionally illiterate, you might have memorized a few words, maybe even a few hundred words, but you're not reading properly. And I was just astounded by this. But it made sense of so much.

Alex Newman: 10:35

And then to find out the history of all this, that this was deliberate right. When Horace Mann first introduced this into the government schools in Boston, it wasn't even two years before all the school masters got together and said this is ridiculous, we're not going to continue doing this. So when I learned how John Dewey had resurrected this quackery about 60 years after it was first discredited in Massachusetts, that was astounding. And then when I learned that this was the method required under Common Core and they say, oh, we'll sprinkle some phonics in later, right after they've already done the damage, I just could not believe it. And so the only sensible conclusion when you consider all these facts is that this was a deliberate process of dumbing down the American people. They did not want Americans to read, and obviously that's the most basic example that you could give. If you can't read, you're essentially totally dependent on your government, school teachers and your television for information, but it just builds outwards from there.

Alex Newman: 11:30

Right, we now have systematically destroyed the ability of children to use logic or reason. We've systematically destroyed the ability of children to consider properly the veracity of evidence. We've systematically destroyed the ability of children to do mathematics. To take a modern example, look at the Common Core. They put two subject matter experts on the Common Core validation committee. These were handpicked experts that they thought would just rubber stamp the crazy standards. And what we found? What the experts found?

Alex Newman: 11:59

Both of them refused to sign off on these standards. The English language expert, dr Sandra Stotsky, who I know I serve on some boards with her she's a very nice lady even though we have quite significant differences on our views about education she said this was going to reduce the critical thinking abilities of children. This was going to cause them to hate reading. I actually interviewed one of the ladies who had been hired to help with the reading section of Common Core and she said all the important and good phonetic lessons were taken out and just a bunch of dumbed-down whole word methods were left. And again, I have significant differences of opinion with her, but she said the same thing Children are not going to learn how to read this way. This is not how you teach reading. So both of them refused to sign off. Sandra Stotsky also said that what they were doing was replacing systematically all the great works of literature that children used to study and replacing it with things like Obama's executive orders and EPA regulations on roof insulation. I mean, there's things that no person would ever want to read.

Alex Newman: 12:57

And then, on the math side, you had Dr James Milgram of Stanford University. He said something very similar. He said I can't sign off on this. The standards are terrible as possible, he said. Some of them are based on incorrect mathematics. I'm not signing off on this. So what did they do? Did they go back to the drawing board and fix the standards? No, of course they didn't. They took the names of these two individuals, the only two subject matter experts on the validation committee. They took the names off and just proceeded anyway. So to me, this is evidence of deliberate dumbing down of the American people. It is systematic and we absolutely must stop it if we hope to ever recover everything that was good and decent and good about our society.

Mr. Webb: 13:37

So I feel like the dumbing down and the indoctrinating kind of go hand in hand, and you can tell me your thoughts on this, but I feel like in order for them to have the room to indoctrinate, they kind of first had to dumb down. Am I thinking about that correctly or am I way off on that?

Alex Newman: 13:56

I think you're 100% correct. The indoctrination follows naturally from the dumbing down, and I think that's why they wanted the dumbing down in the first place. They wanted to be able to manipulate people, and highly intelligent, highly educated people are more difficult to manipulate. So it's actually a very simple process and what you see is that's exactly what has happened. The more dumb down our population has become, the more successful the indoctrination has become, to the point now where you have a lot of districts where more than half of the children identifies one of the letters in the alphabet their LGBT, whatever.

Alex Newman: 14:29

If you look at what they've done in science, it's another very, very good example of this. So the same clowns who brought you Common Core have the next generation science standards. I call them the next generation pseudoscience standards. So if the teachers follow the standards as laid out in the next generation science standards, 12 years of so-called science education will result in not one single mention of the scientific method. Why in the world would you not teach children about the scientific method in science class? Well, the answer is quite simple.

Alex Newman: 15:00

If you talk to them about the scientific method, they know that evolution was not science because, of course, it cannot be observed. It's not a hypothesis that can be tested. It may be a hypothesis, it may be a theory, but it's certainly not proven by science. Neither is infinite genders, neither is man-made global warming I mean, you can just list a whole list of idiotic things they're teaching to our children today under the guise of science. And you know that if children understood the scientific method, if children understood how science is actually conducted, they would know that none of these things are actually science.

Alex Newman: 15:31

They may be cute theories, they may be cute hypotheses, they may be nice for ideological reasons, but whatever they are, they aren't science. And yet this is what our children are being taught. And, of course, because they don't know science and because they don't have the tools of logic available to them, because they struggle with reading, because they're being taught to hate learning, they don't even have the intellectual curiosity to go out and figure out what the truth is, so they just accept this garbage at face value. And there are, of course, many, many examples that we could give of this. But yeah, it's much harder to manipulate and enslave people who are highly educated and who are able to think than dumbed-down people who basically have very little ability to think about what's happening to them or what's being presented to them.

Mr. Webb: 16:14

And I'm a middle school math teacher and this phrase to me just shows the dumbing down paired with the indoctrinating, and that's the phrase that math is racist. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. I'm always caught off guard when I hear that.

Alex Newman: 16:34

And that's becoming a dogma for a lot of these people. And again, a generation ago everybody would have laughed and anybody who seriously proposed that would have been considered a good candidate for a mental institution. I mean, what kind of idiotic thing is that? But you see that now across the board, you see people say that punctuation is racist, proper grammar is racist. I mean this kind of stuff is so absurd and it never would have been possible if Americans had remained educated. And to be clear, prior to the advent of government schools and we expose this very clearly in the new book Indoctrinating Our Children to Death prior to the emergence of government education, americans were the most highly educated people, the most literate people on planet Earth, without a close second anywhere in the world at any time in history. So you know, when you realize how far we have fallen, it makes the situation even that much more alarming.

Mr. Webb: 17:27

And speaking of your new book Indoctrinating Our Children to Death, you dive into the evolution of education in America, Do you not?

Alex Newman: 17:39

We do. Yep, we started at the very beginning of the history there. We start before we even had government schools, and show, we prove, actually, that the people who dreamed up this system, the people who built this system, every single one of them, had the same agenda Turn Americans away from the founding principles, turn Americans away from Christianity, turn Americans away from the ideas of individual liberty enshrined in our founding documents and turn them toward godlessness and collectivism. And, of course, they've been very successful.

Mr. Webb: 18:11

When did this happen? Was it a certain event, a key event or something that you see that it changed? Or did you, in your research for this book, did you see that it just is something that happened gradually?

Alex Newman: 18:25

Well, it did happen gradually, and John Dewey actually articulated the fact that it had to be gradual to be successful. He wrote an essay in 1898 called the Primary Education Fetish and he outwines basically a plan to dumb down the population. Not in exactly those words, but he points out that change must come gradually. To force it unduly would compromise its final success by favoring a violent reaction. So he understood full well that Americans would revolt. I mean, these people would have been tired and feathered if people had understood what they were doing. And so it had to be a gradual process.

Alex Newman: 18:59

When Horace Mann really the first guy to bring true government schools to the United States, he studied the Prussian model when he proposed getting rid of the Bible in education, I mean it was outrageous to people. It was like an oxymoron. How in the world could you have education without the Bible? The Bible is the main textbook. What do you mean? You're going to have schools without the Bible? It just didn't make sense to people. So it took a long time to get us there.

Alex Newman: 19:24

But even the structure of the schools today, right when government education, when government first got its nose under the tent, so to speak, to get any role in education, the idea that kids would sit in a school for nine months out of the year, for five days a week, for six to ten hours a day, that would have been inconceivable to normal people, and so this was a process that took many, many generations to reach the absurd point that it's at today, and I suspect we are not at peak in sanity yet. We still have a long way to go before we reach the absolute height of the madness.

Mr. Webb: 20:02

That is the worst thing you could have said. I was really hoping you would say you know the worst is behind us, because we've seen some really crazy things, and it does seem to get worse. I don't know.

Alex Newman: 20:19

Yeah, I wish the worst was behind us, but I suspect, as far as the government system is concerned, the worst is still ahead of us. I mean, we now have kids identifying as cats and wanting to pee in litter boxes, and you know, they're just getting started. I think until society crashes and burns, unless somebody forces this to stop, or unless Americans force it to stop by withdrawing their children in huge numbers, the, the madness will continue to get more and more extreme.

Mr. Webb: 20:46

I've done several podcast episodes and had several guests on the topic of school choice, and my theory is and it may be my, my business background, because I didn't start teaching till I was 40, before that I was in banking and insurance but I feel like competition is a good thing and I feel like with more school choice, public schools would have to get better or or they would just die. So, just like a business, you know, if I run a business and I have competitors come in, I have to do what's best for my customers. In this case, the customers would be the students, and If I'm doing things that aren't working, I've got to, I've got to kind of cut some things out, and I feel like that's a great way to take him back. Education is competition.

Alex Newman: 21:39

Well there's. There's a lot to unpack there, and this is a subject that I have thought about extensively and have written about Extensively. I am obviously always and everywhere in favor of competition. My big concern with what what is called today school choice is that it actually, I believe, will end up eliminating Genuine school choice, because what happens here is the customer is not actually the family, the customer is not actually the child or even the parents. The customer, when you're talking about government funded school choice programs, is actually the state, and so what ends up happening is private schools, christian schools, parochial schools, experimental schools. Anybody who starts taking government money starts serving a new customer right, because right now we do have school choice. Right now, any parent in the United States with a handful of exceptions who might be under Court order after divorce or something any parent in the United States, generally speaking, can pull their child out of a government brainwashed camp and put them into any school of their choice, or they can choose to homeschool them. My big concern is that once the government starts offering money for this, once they start funding this publicly through taxes, it's going to happen very, very suddenly, and and that's not a hypothetical concern that I have. In fact, I was living in Sweden when the school choice trap closed and it was very unfortunate because they had used the same arguments that people in America use. These are very apathetic. They're going to use these are very appealing arguments. Right, we're going to introduce competition into the system. We're going to give parents choice. We're going to fund students, not systems. You know all these Marketing points and, of course, it sounded very good.

Alex Newman: 23:15

The problem was that once the government started funding Essentially every private school in the country, with one exception, the one where the aristocrats sent their children, that then gave them the leverage to say, all right, now you're all going to teach exactly what we say, you're all going to teach the national curriculum, you're all going to ban Bible and prayers, you're all going to do this, that and the other, and if you don't, we're going to cut you off and you're done for right, your school is finished. So I believe that is actually the goal and I'm not speculating on this. I have a report from UNESCO that was put out a couple years ago where they actually encourage governments to start, in their words, using public funding for non-state education providers and they say explicitly why they want that done. They want then the state, the government, to be able to come in and Impose what they call equity goals on the schools, which is, you know, communism. They want the state to be able to impose testing requirements. They want them to be able to impose non-discrimination Policies in hiring. In other words, you know, if a guy in address With a mohawk, who believes he's a baby, comes in and demands to teach your Christian pre kindergarten class, you cannot quote unquote discriminate against him, because then you'd be discriminating based on his whatever sexual orientation or gender identity or whatever it is. So you know, in principle, absolutely, competition is excellent. I believe we ought to have a genuine free market in education.

Alex Newman: 24:36

In practice, I'm very concerned that if this is, you know, government funded System, we're gonna end up losing genuine school choice. And so you know I always put out the caveat that many of my friends and people who I agree with on almost everything are on the other side of this issue from me. I'd you know I never take it personally. I love these people dearly and and I'm glad we all share, I think, the same goal. We want real, legitimate, good education for children. We want to get children out of the failing system and into other alternatives.

Alex Newman: 25:06

The risk is just so great that I encourage parents to think of the education of their children, just like we think of the feeding of our children. Right, it doesn't normally occur to parents that it's the government's responsibility to feed their children. Why we got into this notion that it's the government's responsibility to educate our children or to pay for the education of our children by taking money from our neighbors. I think it's very sad and and I think over the long term we're gonna have to have a reckoning where we go back and say no, no, no, right that children are the responsibility of their parents To the extent that they need some help. They go to the church, they go to charities, they go to their local community, to their extended family, not to the state.

Mr. Webb: 25:46

Public school funding. I think the way you worded that was. The customer in public school funding is the state. So homeschooling or private schools, as long as they don't take public school funding Because I see what you're saying. So as long as they don't take public school funding, they're probably gonna remain okay. But I'm gonna paraphrase what you said the moment they start taking public funding, there's probably gonna be strings attached and in the end they're gonna do what schools have done. When the federal government started giving out money with strings attached, then schools all across America Started with the common core in a lot of crazy stuff since then. Am I interpreting that correctly?

Alex Newman: 26:36

Precisely, yeah, and you know my dad used to tell me he passed away a couple years ago. My dad always used to tell me as a child, with federal aid comes federal control, and he meant that in the family context Right, I'm paying your bills, so you're gonna do what I say. But the principle is exactly the same here and we're seeing this right now. I mean, arizona is a really good example. Arizona has been lauded by the school of choice movement, by the Cory de Angelis's and the Betsy Devos's of the world, for years Now as the the champion of school of choice. Well, they just got a Democrat governor. Then, you know, we can overlook questions about the legitimacy of that election, but they just ended up with a Democrat governor.

Alex Newman: 27:10

Katie Hobbs and One of the big priorities she has she actually put out a press release I might even be able to pull it up here real quick where she announced publicly that they are going to be regulating All of the schools that are now taking the government money, and she said this very clearly. She said look, we're spending a billion dollars of tax billion tax dollars every year on private schools, and yet these private schools are Not held to the same standards as public schools. They're using whatever standards they feel like it and so going forward. If a private school is taking tax money, they are going to Enforce the exact same standards that we use in public school, which, of course, would be the common core, right? Why would you, why would anybody want to do that, right? We? We fled from the public schools because we didn't want that stuff, and so here they go. Now they're imposing this on the private schools and unfortunately, the private schools have become very dependent on this Tax money. And the same thing is happening with with home schooling. I really regret to say it. I'll give you a clear example.

Alex Newman: 28:08

Last year in Florida, hb1 was, tells you, you know how, how important a priority that was to the establishment here that it was HB1. The very first bill. It was marketed as a school of choice bill and in the original draft of the bill they proposed that the government would fund home schoolers and the government would fund private schools. So if you wanted to take your children out of a public school and homeschool them or put them in a private school, the government would give you the money to do that, and it passed. I actually talked to the governor about this way to meeting, and I pushed back as hard as I could. We formed a good coalition. We ended up exempting homeschoolers and they created a whole new category of people called the people with a personalized education plan.

Alex Newman: 28:48

But what happens now? Say you're a homeschooler and you find out you can get about $8,000 per child. Right now, I could take about $40,000 a year from my neighbors, from the people in my community, to homeschool my children. It doesn't take me 10% of that to provide a world-class education my children, by the way but I could take $40,000 from them. The only thing I would have to give up in exchange is my freedom, and so I'd have to take an annual test where the data is going to be reported to the State Department of Education. I would have to meet annually with what they call in the bill a choice navigator who, according to the text of the bill, would Assess the educational needs of my child, and and frankly, I'm not interested in giving my data to the state I'm not interested in having the state or one of its minions assess the educational needs of my child. That's my responsibility, and so I encourage people to think just very carefully about this.

Alex Newman: 29:37

Again. I know the vast majority of the people pushing these ideas are very well-intentioned and, you know, I think for a while it would be a positive development because it would allow a lot of families to pull their children From these government schools. The problem is it will come with control. That control will be ramped up steadily as time goes on, to the point where virtually every Educational option will be exactly like all the other educational options. Everybody will be required to surrender their data to big brother, everybody will be required to take the tests and of course, we all know that curriculum and standards follow the test. Right, that's how they enforce the stuff, is. They make sure everybody takes the same test so that everybody has to teach the same material to the children so they can do well on the test. So it's, you know, it's like playing a game of chicken, except the stakes are so much higher.

Mr. Webb: 30:26

And in your book Is there indoctrination that you learned about that might shock parents and even teachers To learn about you. As we've all heard about you know CRT and DEI, are there some scary things out there that maybe haven't made its way into mainstream yet?

Alex Newman: 30:50

I think every parent would be appalled if they understood the full scope of the indoctrination that's going on. It has gotten so bad that I think even people who consider themselves very knowledgeable about what's going on would be appalled at what's happening, and there are many examples. Of course, we all see the transgender stuff, the critical race theory right. What people don't realize is that these are not new things. These ideas, this way of dividing people into oppressor and oppressor these have been around for a long time. They were used very, very effectively by Chairman Mao to turn children against their parents, to the point where children were actually reporting their parents, knowing that they were going to be dragged into their houses and shot. This is the kind of thing that people imagine can't happen in America, but they only imagine that because of normalcy bias, we've had it so good for so long in this country that people can't imagine those things would happen. But what is happening here is children are being turned into weapons. They are being weaponized against their families and against their country and against their communities and against their churches, and it is ending in disaster. I did a speaking tour in 2019 where I traveled across the country and spoke about some of these issues and I spoke in, I think, 45 states, maybe 44 states. I've done hundreds of talks in many countries now. Even everywhere I go, I'm having parents come up to me crying afterward and saying I wish we had known some of these things.

Alex Newman: 32:27

It's hard to describe the enormity of this because it's so pervasive, but it even goes beyond indoctrination. What it is at this point in many respects is actually conditioning. Think of what Pavlov was doing with his dogs in the Soviet Union conditioning them to have a subconscious response to a given stimuli. That is what's happening right now in the system on an unprecedented level and more sophisticated. It's essentially glorified animal behavioral training, and so one of the things that is relatively new that very few people know about or even understand is social-emotional learning, and at first glance it's very easy to fall for the propaganda. They say well, in addition to academic goals, we also have social and emotional goals. We want children to have healthy relationships, we want children to have certain key values and characteristics, and they put out very non-threatening ideas. People say we want children to have empathy or we want children to have compassion, and I don't know of any parent in the world who wouldn't want their child to have empathy or compassion. We all want that of our children. But when you dig right beneath the surface, you realize that their understanding of empathy means you have to support abortion up until birth, you have to support open borders, you have to support castrating little boys, you have to support hysterectomies and double mastectomies for little girls, when you realize that even the things that sound innocent and maybe even helpful are unbelievably wicked and you want to go one step deeper.

Alex Newman: 34:03

I actually was researching SEL back before it was even hardly known at all. Nobody that I know of had written really a critical report on SEL, so I wrote a. I ended up putting it in the book as a chapter. I went to the premier organization peddling this. It was funded by Bill Gates, it's called CASEL, the Collaborative for Academic and Social-Emotional Learning and I went to their History tab and right there on their History tab they said that the idea for this came from the Fetzer Institute. Well, that was interesting. So I looked up the Fetzer Institute.

Alex Newman: 34:30

Turns out it was founded by a New Age occultist weirdo, a disciple of Alice Bailey, who was the founder of the Lucifer Publishing Company, and this is a name that keeps coming up over and over and over again. Right, you look at the United Nations, they have what they call the World Core Curriculum. It was written by Robert Mueller. He was the assistant secretary general of the UN at the time. He also is known as the father of global education and I've got the teacher's manual to his World Core Curriculum. And what he says in the foreword to the teacher's manual is that the underlying philosophy behind it is based on the teachings of Alice Bailey and the Tibetan teacher Javal Kool, which Alice Bailey, I just explained, was the founder of the Lucifer Publishing Company. And this Tibetan teacher was not a Tibetan or a teacher. Actually, alice Bailey claimed to be communicating with these spiritual entities she called Ascended Masters and they were actually dictating these books to her. She claimed to be channeling them.

Alex Newman: 35:27

I've got one of them, two feet from where I'm sitting right now. It's called Education in the New Age and, without going too deep down the rabbit hole, this lady is a disciple of Helena Blavatsky. She's dead now, but she was a disciple of Helena Blavatsky and they basically take the biblical story and invert it. So Lucifer was the good guy, the snake in the garden came to liberate and free mankind from the evil, oppressive Jehovah, god the tyrant, who had kept them imprisoned in the garden. So if you boil it all down, they are Luciferians and people don't understand that. These are the kinds of individuals who are creating the global standards, who are creating the curricula who are working on I mean. The same thing is true, by the way, here in the United States, bill Gates signed an agreement in 2004 with UNESCO to work on developing global standards, global curricula, global teacher training programs.

Alex Newman: 36:18

One of the ladies who led the effort to bring in national testing and, eventually, national standards into the United States Very, very strange woman. Her name was Dr Shirley MacCoon, and she was hired during the George HW Bush administration. This was before anybody had any sense that we were headed toward national standards, and so George HW Bush convened a national education summit for governors. All 50 governors came and this lady, dr Shirley MacCoon, gave a speech on how they were going to use the public schools for social change. They were going to predict what was needed in the future and use the social change function of schools to then prepare these students for this new world.

Alex Newman: 37:00

Now, if you look into Shirley MacCoon's background, you don't have to look too deep. You can go on Amazon and find her books. She also claims to be communicating with these spiritual entities called Ascended Masters. She's got one book that's absolutely bonkers about delight, supposedly, and she explains, like Alice Bailey, that we're headed toward a new age and that we're going to evolve through expanded consciousness. And really you don't even have to read between the lines to figure out that they view Bible-believing Christians as the primary obstacle standing in the way of this evolution toward this new age. So it gets really dark really quick. I don't want to get too deep into the weeds on this, but I'll tell you the indoctrination that's taking place is infinitely more wicked than you can possibly imagine.

Mr. Webb: 37:45

I'm glad I asked that question because I had no idea the social-emotional learning. I just learned about that when, well, I've been podcasting for close to a year and it was after I started my podcast that I started hearing about social-emotional learning. So the things that you just described are way beyond what I've even heard and I feel like I keep up with it more than the average teacher does, because it's important enough to me to have a podcast to try to get this information out there. So I really appreciate you sharing that Is the social-emotional learning. Is that part of the restorative justice? Is that part of that? Or is restorative justice just a totally separate thing from that? Because I've heard that lumped in with social-emotional learning.

Alex Newman: 38:38

All of these things are related. They may look like separate things, but I tell people what we're dealing with here is a hydra, and so you see all these tentacles and if you're not paying close attention the tentacles might seem independent of each other. You've got the US Department of Education, you've got UNESCO, you've got social-emotional learning, you've got restorative justice and all these kinds of things, and they're really all connected to the same monstrous machine. And so the ideas behind SEL are very much intertwined with the ideas behind restorative justice, the idea that the reason some children are acting out and terrorizing their classrooms is because society has been mean. To punish them or discipline them or to protect other children from them would be perpetuating oppression and these kinds of things.

Alex Newman: 39:26

A lot of this is rooted in kind of a modified form of Marxism. Critical theory spawned a lot of these ideas, but ultimately it's all geared toward the same objective, which is fundamentally transforming the United States and the world by fundamentally transforming the minds and the hearts of the people. And of course they do that again through dumbing down and indoctrinating people, and there are all these different weapons and tools that they have in their arsenal, but ultimately they're all aiming toward the same objective. And, to be clear, not everybody within the system, even at the higher levels, fully understands this. They may understand their little piece. Somebody has a PhD in, for example, restorative justice. They may not understand how that links to the broader system. But then you see they're being funded by the Rockefeller Foundation, you see they're being funded by the Carnegie Endowment, you see they're getting grants from the US Department of Education and again, ultimately it all is related very closely and it's all very, very dangerous.

Mr. Webb: 40:30

I feel like the restorative justice that is linked to the soft on crime policies that we see. That's ruining a lot of liberal cities where you can. Well, it wasn't very long ago I think it was New York, where an illegal immigrant attacked a police officer and was immediately like let back out on the street and and it got arrested for something else, and in San Francisco, and you can just go on and on and on. I feel like the saw the restorative justice in school. That's like the school version of the soft on crime policies in the cities. And if it's ruining the cities, why are we letting it happen in the schools?

Alex Newman: 41:18

Yeah, and there's a very deliberate agenda here. And it's not soft on crime per se, right? We just have two very different standards. If you're terrorizing your fellow citizens, if you're burning down communities, if you're shooting cops, if you are destroying society, yes, then we're gonna treat you with kid gloves right, in fact, we might even protect you. We'll let you out with no bail, right. If you're crossing the border illegally with blueprints to blow up power plants or water treatment facilities, we're gonna pretend like we don't see that. But if you say help Donald Trump, get elected, like Paul Manafort, we're gonna throw you in prison. If you advised Donald Trump, like Roger Stone, we're gonna raid your house with the FBI, with the CNN in tow, and drag your wife into pajamas at about five in the morning. If you refuse to cooperate with the sham committee, like the January 6th committee, like Peter Navarro using executive privilege, well, we're gonna put leg shackles on you and frog, march you out of the airport and then put you in federal penitentiary for a very long time. If you're Steve Bannon or if you're General Flynn, these are the kinds of things that they'll do to you. So it's soft on crime for the people who are terrorizing society, for the people who are tearing down society, for the revolutionaries, and it is the hammer for anybody who stands in the way of this revolution, and I think that's a helpful way of thinking about this.

Alex Newman: 42:41

We are in the midst of a revolution. I've had one of the chapters in the book deals with the big foundations, and Congress investigated these foundations back in the 1950s and they found some really explosive things. One of the things that the Congressional Commission found was that there had been a revolution in America, they said in the 1940s, and so they were talking about the revolution in the past tense and they said this revolution never would have been possible peacefully had the education system not prepared the way in advance. And, of course, the Rockefellers, the Carnegie, et cetera played a critical role in that. So what's happening now is the next phase of the revolution, and very much like students for a democratic society back in the 1970s, one of their common sound bites was the issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution, and that's a really helpful term to understand so much of what's going on today. It's not about climate change, it's not about racial justice, it's not about any of these things. Those are not the real issues. The issue is the revolution. Those things are just means to the end of the revolution.

Alex Newman: 43:43

And so if having people terrorize communities and burn down cities and shoot cops advances the revolution, then we're going to promote that. We're going to protect everybody from arrest. We're going to demonize everybody who speaks out against that, like we saw in recent years. But if somebody stands against that revolution, then everything and anything will be used to destroy that person, whether that be attacks in the media, whether that be criminal prosecution, whether that be looting of that person's business, destroying of that person's reputation, throwing a Molotov cocktail through their storefront window. And so this is basically the reality that we're dealing with. And when you understand that we're in a revolution and when you understand that anybody who's seen as helping the cause of that maybe not even consciously right, a lot of the people who are looting the store they don't understand that they're part of a revolution. They just want a free TV. But because that serves the interests of the revolutionaries, that will be encouraged, that will be protected, and so I think that's a helpful kind of frame to try to understand what's happening.

Mr. Webb: 44:44

And throughout your book you discuss not only indoctrination, but one other thing I wanted to get to is the sexualization of children in schools. So what do you mean by that? What did you find there? What should parents look out for?

Alex Newman: 45:01

So this is a really important point. In fact, that's one of the few topics that I devoted two chapters to in the book, because it is so significant, you know. Now I want to start off by explaining that the sexualization is not just about sexualizing your children. It's not just about encouraging promiscuity. It's not just about encouraging homosexuality or transgenderism or bestiality or any of the other things that are now being encouraged. It actually goes much, much deeper than that, and so I looked into the history of this right. Where did this whole thing come from? And the history goes back over a century.

Alex Newman: 45:36

The first time I could find that something like this was implemented was actually in communist Hungary, under the Bellacoon regime. This was a very short-lived communist dictatorship that took root in Hungary a little over 100 years ago, and they had a commissar of education and culture named Georgie Lukak's, and the communists had already started realizing they didn't want to publicly admit it, but they had already started realizing that Marx was wrong. The workers were not going to rise up and overthrow the bourgeoisie, and they came to the conclusion that the reason for that was that the cultural norms the Christian church, the family, the cultural institutions were all too strong. And so as long as you had a family, as long as you had your faith, as long as you had the traditions and culture that have been passed down to you, you were not going to pick up arms and overthrow the bourgeoisie. So Georgie Lukak's decided that a full, frontal attack on the family would be a useful tool. So they started exposing children in the government brainwash camps there to unbelievable perversion. They were doing puppet shows, with puppets doing perverted things that are so perverted we can't even talk about them. We were talking little kids here, kindergarten, first grade, second grade, third grade and the goal was to destroy the sexual morality and sexual ethics that of course, stem from the Christian tradition, that stem from the biblical understanding of sexuality and morality and the family and things like this. And they found it was pretty effective. There was another guy he called himself a Frito Marxist who actually believed again that sexualizing children would be a very effective way of dismantling the nuclear family. And why did they want to dismantle the nuclear family? Well, because it was a massive brick wall in the path of the revolution. As long as parents were raising their children, they were passing on values, culture, religion, tradition to the next generation. So they figured if they could interrupt that process, if they could turn the children into little blank slates and interrupt that transmission belt whereby values and culture and religion and tradition are passed on. They could then come in and write whatever they wanted on the minds of these little children. So that was the thinking behind it.

Alex Newman: 47:46

Now you fast forward a few decades and you come to a vile and very sick demented individual here in the United States. His name was Alfred Kinsey. He was at Indiana University, funded by the Rockefellers, working in cooperation with the Central Intelligence Agency by the time the 1950s came along, including on outrageous and disgusting programs like MKUltra, which we probably won't have time to get into today, but people can read about it. We've got some of the documents, have been declassified. It's monstrous.

Alex Newman: 48:13

So this is a pervert of the most vile sort. I don't want to get too graphic, but let me try to think of how to say this without being offensive. But he trained a bunch of pedophiles to abuse children and they kept detailed notes of what they were doing, including babies, right and they published the results, right. None of this is a secret. You can find the tables that they kept of their sexual abuse of children in a publication, a book that he published called Sexuality in the Human Male. It's more vile than you could imagine, but a horrific abuse of these children. And without getting into the details of these so-called experiments, they concluded that children were sexual from birth and that they ought to be sexualized from the moment they could be pride-loose from their mothers. And of course that was what they set out to do. And so Kinsey worked with some of his buddies to create the SICIS, the Sex Education and Information Council of the United States. Today it's just called SICIS Sex Ed for Social Change, which is a very, very good name for this organization.

Alex Newman: 49:15

But really, the sexualization of children. Parents get outraged about this quite properly. The federal government has known for decades the horrific consequences of promiscuity, right, when you sexualize children, when you get children fornicating before marriage. These are things that have lifelong consequences. I've got books in my library that the US government commissioned. I've got one from Dr Melvin Anchel showing just the lifelong catastrophic consequences to people from early sexualization, from early fornication. In turn it causes problems for their future marriages, it causes problems for their future relationships with their children. I mean, the catastrophe is hard to quantify, it's so bad. And so you take all this together and you realize it's worse than just turning your daughters into prostitutes and turning your sons into, you know, disgusting, you know, wanna have sexual relations with everything that walks type individuals. It's actually even more nefarious than that. It's about trying to dismantle the family, dismantle the old culture, the old norms, the old civilization, and bring about this new order, this new age that these people so openly talk about at this point.

Mr. Webb: 50:27

Yeah, there's so much unpack there and it is sick to think about. And, if I'm not mistaken, I read a little about that and some of the folks that were some of the I guess they were kids at the time grew up to have terrible mental problems and even commit suicide. But you won't ever hear about that.

Alex Newman: 50:51

Of course, the effects of this stuff have been known and understood for a long time. It's hard to overstate how devastating this is, and they know that right. And still they tell us oh, it's to keep them safe from STDs, it's to stop pregnancies, unwanted pregnancies and things like this. Total, total baloney. And in fact we have the data right. After they started exposing children to this in the United States, the problem of unwanted teenage pregnancies and STDs exploded to a level we had never even imagined possible in this country. And of course, it's still getting worse. Right, it's still getting worse. So we have a major problem in this country and parents who need to recognize that you have an obligation to protect your children from this. It's, these are things that will damage them for life and they need you to step in. They need you to protect them from this.

Mr. Webb: 51:48

And I would say the main thing that stopped unwanted pregnancies when I was growing up was parents teaching their kids morals. Now I'm not saying you know anybody that had an unwanted pregnancy, I'm not saying you're immoral, but I'm saying that stopped most unwanted pregnancies.

Mr. Webb: 52:08

And of course that's totally different than just hey, go out and do what you want to, and here's some things you can do to try to keep from getting STDs or, you know, pregnant. Well, how about teaching them not to do it? What's wrong with waiting until marriage? What's wrong with teaching that they used to be normal and now that's it's crazy to even, you know, teach your kids that, and all by design.

Alex Newman: 52:34

Again, the target is the family. They have a clear and totally transparent objective. I mean totally transparent objective. They want to destroy the family. They want to turn children against their parents. They want to have children look to the government as their protector. And we're watching this unfold in real time. And I just wrote an article last week about a teacher who gave an assignment in Maine that children should declare independence from something problematic in their lives, like their parents. Right, that's crazy. It's happening on purpose, right? And so this was a big part of it.

Alex Newman: 53:06

If you go back even to the very beginning of government schools, most American children were not in a government school until World War I. And what happened during World War I? Well, they sent the men off to go die in a war that nobody even really understood, right? Some archduke got shot, and so now millions of Americans have to die. What I mean? That doesn't make any sense, right? So they sent the men off to go die in the war. They forced the women into the factories, since the men who used to work in the factories were off dying in the war. And then you had a bunch of children. What do you do with the children Now? Well, hey, let's put them in government schools.

Alex Newman: 53:35

And so that was a turning point. And ultimately, the objective is and they're starting to tell us this openly Joe Biden has said several times over the last year that all these children belong to all of us, right? They asked the secretary of miseducation, miguel Cardona, in a recent Senate hearing whether parents were the primary stakeholders in the education of their children, and the response was astounding. Well, parents are important stakeholders, but they're educators, right? So this is very, very dangerous. I mean, this is the philosophy of the Nazis, this is the philosophy of the regimes that have butchered over a hundred million of their own people in the last hundred years. And, unfortunately, the Americans are not seeing it because we're very ignorant about history. We're very ignorant about what has happened around the world and for people who think that can't happen here, it is happening here and it will get worse if we don't stop it.

Mr. Webb: 54:27

And I try to speak for teachers. I try to speak for conservative teachers, but not just conservative teachers. You know it doesn't matter what your political leanings are If you want to hold up traditional values and try to keep some of these crazy things we've been talking about out of school. So you often hear you know that education is terrible, teachers are horrible and folks talk about what parents can do, but on the half of all the conservative minded teachers out there, what can teachers and parents do to fight back against all this insanity that we've mentioned?

Alex Newman: 55:09

Yeah, and so I'm very much pro teacher as well. You know I mentioned that I taught for 12 years. It was one of the highlights of my life being able to teach these children. It was incredibly fun, it was incredibly exciting, and so I always tell people I'm not anti teacher at all, any more than somebody who said you know, collective agriculture in the Soviet Union is a stupid idea was anti farmer. I'm pro farmer, I want food, I want children to be educated. I just think there's a better way to do it, and so I always emphasize it I'm very much pro teacher, I'm very much pro education.

Alex Newman: 55:40

But the question of how parents should approach this, well, I conclude the book with a final chapter and then a very significant afterword, and so I'll kind of try to condense those as briefly as I can. My final chapter starts off with an analogy. So the government school building is on fire and your children are trapped inside, and you hear the screaming, you smell the burning flesh, you sense what's happening there, and now, as a parent, ask yourself what do I do? My child is being burned alive inside of a burning building. What do I do? And if signing a petition or running for school board or lobbying your legislature were the first thing that popped into your mind, you're either not a parent or you're a terrible parent. The thing you wanna do is you wanna run in the building and you wanna grab your child, and then you wanna run as far as your legs will carry you, as fast as they will carry you, and that ought to be the response of every parent who loves their children right now. Except it's actually not an adequate analogy. The fire might hurt your child physically, might even kill them, but what is happening here, I would argue, is infinitely worse than just physical damage. Physical damage can heal, and physical death is just the start of eternity as far as I'm concerned.

Alex Newman: 56:53

What we're talking about here, what is being done to these children? They are being destroyed physically. Yes, I mean our boys are being castrated. Girls are having double mastectomies and hysterectomies. They're injecting themselves with heroin. They're aborting their children. They're shooting each other. School suicide I mean suicide among children is not one of the leading causes of death of children? It's absolutely out of control. So, yes, they're hurting them and killing them physically on a very, very large scale, but even worse than that, they're destroying them mentally and spiritually and emotionally and academically. I mean they are systematically deconstructing their identity in the worst possible way and turning them into brainwashed zombies and revolutionaries ready to destroy their families and their heritage and their country.

Alex Newman: 57:37

So we must take this seriously and I tell people you must get your children out of the public schools. It's not a negotiable thing. If you want what's best for them, you've got to get them out. And I know all the retorts well, I don't have the money to do it, or my school district is not that bad, or all unbrained wash them at dinner. I've heard all this stuff a million times before and I'm sure you have as well. But I don't believe there is any substitute for getting our children out as quickly as we possibly can do it. And I know we won't be able to save every child. I understand that. But we will be able to save some and we are saving some. Millions of children have fled the system just in the last few years and millions more are gonna flee in the next few years. So this is encouraging. We need to encourage more of it.

Alex Newman: 58:23

On a more big picture level, I think we need to start asking ourselves some real questions, and so that's what I did in the afterward. What does a legitimate education even look like? And I think that begins with asking some really important questions Like what is the purpose of education? The world has its view, the Google has its view, the AI has its view, the system has its view. But is that really the purpose of education? I mean, if you ask Google, it says that you know to help your child become a successful member of society, right. Well, what does that mean? In, say, nazi Germany, does that just mean your child is a really good concentration camp guard? Does that mean your child is really good at rounding up Jews and throwing them on trains? You know, do we really just want our children to be quote unquote successful members of society as our chief objective?

Alex Newman: 59:09

You look at Common Core.

Alex Newman: 59:10

What was the goal of Common Core?

Alex Newman: 59:11

They told us to make your children prepared for college and career.

Alex Newman: 59:14

Well, is that really the primary goal of education? And you know, that's what your average person today thinks because we've been brainwashed systematically for a period of generations. That was not the purpose of education prior to the advent of government schools. So I think we really need to start at the very beginning.

Alex Newman: 59:31

We need to ask ourselves some really fundamental questions about what it is we're trying to do here and over the long term, I think the goal needs to be to smash this wicked government monopoly that exists and replace it with nothing right. Let the free market take over. Let parents and churches and nonprofit organizations take over. The pagans can create their own pagan school, the atheists can create an atheist school, the Christians can create Christian schools, and the free market will show very quickly that the Christian schools offering a real, legitimate Christian education are going to do the best. The home schoolers are going to do the best, and anybody who still sticks to the current model that's used in the government schools today will go bankrupt very, very quickly, because nobody would voluntarily subject their children to this if they fully understudied.

Mr. Webb: 1:00:14

Exactly and, if you don't mind, I'll add to the analogy of the school being on fire. The fire was started by the same government that's trying to convince us that they know what's best for our kids.

Alex Newman: 1:00:26

Amen, amen. That's exactly what has gone on, and the arsonist is posing as the savior here right, the guy that set the fire is saying oh, just give me more money and I'll save your children. For you. I mean no, no, no, no more money, you belong in jail.

Mr. Webb: 1:00:41

So we've talked about so much, but what do you think is the one thing you want the listener to remember, if they don't remember anything else about this episode?

Alex Newman: 1:00:51

Well, the big takeaway I would say and this is what people struggle so much to understand is really the reason I wrote the book. This was deliberate. You hear everybody say the schools are broken. No, they're not broken. When you understand what the designers and the architects had in mind, then you understand that they're not broken. They're working very well. They're taking 80% of Christian children from Christian homes, turning them against God, turning them against their faith, turning them against their church. That's a pretty darn good track record when you understand why these were built.

Alex Newman: 1:01:19

So we have to stop thinking that the system is broken and that a few tweaks here and there are gonna fix it. It's not right. It's doing what it was designed to do To a large extent. I mean, there are still kids who slip through the cracks, kids like me who don't pay any attention in school and you know whatever. So, yeah, some people still slip through the cracks, but the system is doing what it was designed to do. It was designed to do what it is doing right now.

Alex Newman: 1:01:42

And you know, when people talk about how do we reform the system, I this is the big takeaway here it's like why would you want to reform the system? It's the equivalent of asking me you know how would you like to reform your cancer? So you have this cancer and the cancer is gonna kill you. Let's reform it for you. Maybe if it was a better shape, maybe if it would spread to these organs instead of those? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't want to reform my cancer. I wanna get rid of my cancer so I can get back to having a healthy body and a nice life. If we want to save this country, if we wanna save Western civilization, if we wanna save the family, if we want the fruit of those things right, individual liberty, security, prosperity, peace I mean all the things that we've come to take for granted if we wanna preserve the fruit of those things, we're gonna have to deal with this cancer.

Alex Newman: 1:02:28

And by cancer I'm not talking about education in general. I'm talking about the system that poses as an education system, and so we need to reimagine the system. We can go back and study what our forefathers did, learn from them what was good, maybe drop what was not so good and just start from scratch, and I don't believe there's any shortcut. It's not what anybody wants to hear, because there's no simple solution, and running for school board is not gonna fix this problem. And, to be clear, I'm not against running for school board right, once your kids are safely out great, do it please. But we've got to understand this was by design and until we have an accurate diagnosis, we're gonna keep getting the treatment wrong, and this is not something that we can afford to get the treatment wrong any longer. I mean literally the patient's life is on the line here, the patient being our country, and if we keep diddling around with the wrong diagnosis and the wrong treatments, the patient is going to die.

Mr. Webb: 1:03:21

And I can't wait to read and doctorinating our children to death and I'll make sure and put a link to that in the show notes. I'm an Amazon affiliate, so anybody that wants the book, you go to the show notes, click on the link to buy a book. You'll be helping out Alex, you'll be helping out the podcast. But, alex, what else do you want to share? This is your time to plug or promote anything you want to. If you want to share your social media, any upcoming projects, any past books that you want to plug, this is your time.

Alex Newman: 1:03:53

Well, thank you so much, and so education has taken up a big part of my focus in recent years, but I do cover a lot of other issues extensively. I've been exposing the climate change lies. My most recent book before this one was about the deep state. It's called Deep State the Invisible Government Behind the Scenes, where I show kind of who's really doing these things to us. It's not just Democrats or Republicans or Trump or Biden, so I try to dig into that. Best way to follow my work. You can go to my website. It's at libertycentinal. That's S-E-N-T-I-N-E-L dot org and people can sign up for my free newsletter there. We send it out twice a week. It's free unless you choose to become a paid subscriber. I'm on Twitter or X. It's Alex Newman. That's with a W underscore, j-o-u for journalism. People can follow me there. And then, yeah, I really appreciate you having me on the program and I appreciate your podcast. Thank you for what you're doing and it's been an honor and a pleasure to be able to speak with you.

Mr. Webb: 1:04:48

It's been a total pleasure on my end and I have learned so much and I can't wait to have you back on sometime. So thank you so much for being on the podcast, thank you. That's it for today's episode of The Conservative Classroom. Thank you for tuning in. I hope you enjoyed it and learned something. If you liked what you heard. Please don't forget to subscribe and leave us a review on your favorite podcast platform. Most importantly, share this podcast with a like-minded educator, parent or patriot. You can also connect with us on social media and share your thoughts on today's topic. Give feedback on the podcast or suggest a topic by sending me an email at TheConservativeClassroom@gmail. com. We'd love to hear from you.

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